Welcome back to Killer Cuties Podcast, today we’re dissecting Pandorum, a sci-fi horror with a cult following (mostly on Facebook).
Two astronauts (Dennis Quaid, Ben Foster) awaken on a deserted spaceship with no memory of their mission or crewmates. Disoriented and alone, they must unravel the mystery of the missing crew while navigating the depths of the vessel, where monstrous creatures lurk in the shadows.
Horror News Roundup
👉 Terrifier 3 release date bumped to October 11: https://variety.com/2024/film/news/terrifier-3-new-release-date-october-1235987897/
👉 The Pope’s Exorcist (Russell Crowe) gets a sequel: https://screenrant.com/the-popes-exorcist-2-confirmation-story-cast-updates/
👉 Mike Flanagan in talks to direct a new Exorcist movie for Blumhouse and Universal: https://deadline.com/2024/05/mike-flanagan-in-talks-to-direct-next-exorcist-movie-blumhouse-universal-1235903358/
👉 Julia Ducournau’s (Raw) new film Alpha casting: https://nz.news.yahoo.com/golshifteh-farahani-tahar-tahim-star-121614838.html
👉 28 Years Later looking for marathon runners, cyclists, triathletes presumably to play infected: https://filmstories.co.uk/news/28-years-later-is-filming-in-may-needs-marathon-runners/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=28-years-later-is-filming-in-may-needs-marathon-runners
👉 Call Chucky and tell him you want Season 4: https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3810522/chucky-season-4-call-this-number-and-let-the-executives-know-you-want-it/
Next Week
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Hello?
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Hello?
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Welcome back to Killer Cuties Podcast.
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Happy Tuesday.
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Happy Tuesday!
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Great, it was good seeing everybody.
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No, no, we're here for at least like an hour.
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We have quite a bit of horror news.
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I feel like a lot of stuff kind of dropped yesterday.
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So yeah, yeah, yeah, hit me.
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Oh, okay.
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Terrifier 3, its release date has been pushed up by two weeks.
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Oh wait, okay, that's good news.
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So we'll now get that on October 11th.
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And obviously it was originally supposed to come out around closer to Halloween.
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So that gives us a few weeks before Halloween to get into the Halloween
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spirit.
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Nice!
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I like that.
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I feel like we've had so much news about things getting pushed back.
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It's nice to have something move forward.
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Yeah.
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Nice.
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I have Jeff Katz who produced The Pope's Exorcist.
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He has announced that a sequel has been officially greenlit.
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And previously Russell Crowe had said that the movie was supposed to be part of a
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trilogy.
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So it looks like they're moving forward with that.
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Yeah, I did watch it.
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I'm going to be honest, I don't remember a lot from that movie except...
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a vivid image of Russell Crowe dressed up as a pope riding on a Vespa.
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That's kind of fun.
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It's by far the best shot of the film.
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No, that's not fair.
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I don't remember.
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he's really good friends with Terri Irwin.
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Oh really?
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That is a fun fact that you would know.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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Um, and next we've got Mike Flanagan, of the Flanaverse: Midnight Mass, Haunting of
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Hill House, et cetera, is in talks to direct another Exorcist film.
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Oh.
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to Deadline, it'll be associated with Blumhouse and Universal.
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Obviously.
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Blumhouse is hit, is a hit or a miss?
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That's true.
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They just don't know, they don't have any mediums.
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It's either really good or really bad.
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Yeah.
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And they've been putting out clunkers.
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So maybe this will be, I mean, I trust in Mike Flanagan to do something fun and
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spicy.
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Yeah, I feel like I, he hasn't disappointed me, so I'll definitely be
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willing to give it a go.
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Yeah.
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I have news that kind of relates to our last week's episode.
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So last week we talked about Raw, which was Julia Ducournau's first direct, like
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her directorial debut.
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And she...
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has her third film that has just started casting.
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So it's going to be called Alpha.
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Yes, And apparently it's said to be her most personal, profound work yet.
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So that's exciting.
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It's horror?
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I don't know.
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It was in the horror news section, so I think so.
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But I feel like it might be kind of in the realm of her other two films, Raw and
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Titane, where it's kind of like has horror elements, but might not be like 100 %
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horror.
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That's what I would guess.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Okay, one more for me.
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We kinda got a little sneak peek into 28 Years Later, sort of, and it's a lot of
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speculation.
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But what we do know is that Danny Boyle put an urgent casting call for cyclists,
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marathon runners, and triathletes to serve as extras in the month of May, which is
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also conveniently when...
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28 Years Later is supposed to start filming.
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So we can assume that it's for 28 Years Later, but that hasn't been 100 %
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confirmed.
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But anyway, if it is, hopefully we'll be getting some good extended scenes of
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zombies going real fast.
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Yeah, I love how it's in the month of like, it's May, babe.
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It's now.
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Okay.
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Yeah, that does sound because I think he - we talked about how they got like,
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athletic people to do the zombies in the first one.
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They go fast.
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Real fast.
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Infected, sorry.
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I don't want to anger people who don't
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consider them zombies.
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What are zombies if not infected?
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Reanimated.
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Yeah, okay.
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Trust me, I've been down the rabbit hole.
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Alright, last one from me.
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If you are a fan of the Chucky TV series, it just ended its third season.
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And if you want a fourth season, the show's creative team has announced that
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there's a number you can call where Chucky will send you a short message to your
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phone along with a graphic and you can post it to show your support.
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So kind of a fun little marketing way of like getting people to call and get a
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message out.
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Cause I think they're trying to like, let the studios know that there is a want for
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a fourth season.
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So if you want to do that, the number is 1-201-500-3347.
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You can can call and talk to Chucky.
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Awww
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Cute.
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That is fun marketing.
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know.
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I'll be honest and say I have not watched the TV show yet, but I will for sure.
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It sounds a little desperate.
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It sounds like they don't have the funding to make a fourth season and they're
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desperate and trying to get people to help them.
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I don't know anymore though because I feel like especially when your show- because I
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think it's like a streaming platform show right it's not like a network show is it?
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I feel like with streaming these days they just cancel shows for no reason.
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Like Netflix has canceled shows that have gotten great ratings and great viewership
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for- literally just because they don't want to spend the money to pay the cast
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more.
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So I feel like it's not necessarily, like it- I don't know, I don't see it as like a
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desperate move I see it as like a hey we can make money off of this don't
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cancel us like every other show on Netflix and shit like that.
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Although I don't think it's a Netflix show, but, you know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Cross our fingers for them.
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Sending love to Chuck.
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Haha.
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Well, are we ready to talk about Pandorum?
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Of course.
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Oh.
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My mouse just did something weird.
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Okay, Pandorum, here we go.
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I'll give you a little summary in case you haven't seen it or it's been a while.
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Astronauts Peyton, played by Dennis Quaid, and Bower, played by Ben Foster, awake in
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a hyper -sleep chamber with no memory of who they are or what their mission might
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be.
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While Peyton stays behind to monitor the radio transmitter, Bower ventures out of
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the chamber into the seemingly abandoned spaceship.
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The men quickly realized that they are not alone and that the fate of mankind hinges
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on what they do next.
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That was from Google.
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It was released in 2009.
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It was written by Travis Milloy and Christian Alvart, right?
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Alvart, I think is how you say that, Alvart.
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Yeah, sorry.
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And Christian Alvart also directed.
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And fun fact, he was only 34 when he directed this.
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Hmm.
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$33 million budget.
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Boy, is that apparent in the set design.
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Anyway, I also, no, that's a good budget.
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That's a good budget and the set design is amazing.
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We'll talk about it later.
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Dennis Quaid, Ben Foster, Cam Gigandet?
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Gigandet?
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Gigandet?
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And Norman Reedus is in it.
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I love Norman Reedus.
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It has a whopping...
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49 % on Rotten Tomatoes and a 28 % on Metacritic, but it does have a 6 .7 out of
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10 on IMDb.
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Yeah, IMDb was a little bit more forgiving to it.
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Also, that's not even, that's the 49 % is the audience score of Rotten Tomatoes.
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Oh god, what's the critic score?
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29 % Yeah, critics didn't like this
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I could see why.
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I don't want to give too much away?
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I think critics were maybe like a little too harsh on it.
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Just a little bit.
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29 % is crazy.
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Yeah.
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With that twist.
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Which one?
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Yeah, those twists exactly.
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Critics.
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crazy.
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Actually, fun fact though, Travis Milloy, when he wrote it, he did not have an
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ending.
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He started it as kind of like a...
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preliminary outline and kind of just going with the creative process of seeing where
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an idea would start and then how it would go.
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But then when he reached the ending, where Nadia finally like looks outside of the
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cockpit windows, he didn't know what she would see.
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So he kind of just stopped writing and went out with his dog, took a walk.
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He was like looking up at the night sky trying to figure out like, what
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would be unexpected to see.
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And his dog started drinking out of a puddle.
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And then he saw the water and he was like, that would be kind of the exact opposite
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of like thinking you're in space and you're actually so far underwater.
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So that was how he came up with the ending.
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He went home and wrote the rest of it.
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Cute!
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Yeah.
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The other fun thing I like about the script development is that it was
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originally by Travis Milloy and it was written about a prison ship and Bower was
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a crew member and the people he sent was upon on the ship are the prisoners.
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But the producers felt like it needed elevated a little bit so they gave it to
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Christian Alvart, the director, and he was totally coincidentally and secretly
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developing a very similar film but a little more spacey.
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And then they ended up melding the two scripts together to get what became
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Pandorum.
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Yeah, I always think that's crazy.
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Like, I mean, obviously, I feel like we hear about the ones that work well
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together like that.
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So I am sure there's a million examples of someone getting a script, they're working
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on a script that has nothing to do with it, and they don't meld it together.
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And we never hear about it.
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But it is interesting when it kind of works out that way.
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And it's like serendipitous.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It was also originally planned to be a short and they were only going to put like
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$200 in it or something.
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But in.
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it was going to be like a low budget shot on video, like just unknown actors,
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cheapest that they could get.
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And then Impact Pictures read it and they liked it.
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Mm -hmm.
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Crazy.
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Yeah.
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Your man, Normus.
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Norman?
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Normus?
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Uh huh.
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Jesus.
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He asked for a role in the movie because he wanted to work with Christian Alvart
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again.
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He was like, put me in this film.
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I guess they had previously worked together on a movie called Antibodies.
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Do you have the antibodies?
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Do you want to be with me?
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No?
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Oh my God, that was a staple of early COVID.
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Oh.
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Is that...
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No.
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Who is it by?
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Nicholas Braun.
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Who?
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The glowing guy from Sky High.
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Oh my god, that's fucking funny.
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I think he's on Succession too now, but or was that show ended, I think.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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He just really is like an emo song.
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It's so funny.
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It's like a throwback to like early 2000s.
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Like he's wearing like a fucking beater with a tie on.
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It's just very like early 2000s punk type of...
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I'm gonna send it to you because it's really funny.
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It's a great song, but it's about having the antibodies.
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And if you don't have them, you better stay away.
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Wait, so it's literally about COVID.
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literally about, yes, he wrote it about, like, getting the vaccine.
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Oh my god!
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How did I not hear that?
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I don't know!
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I listen to that song every day for like a month.
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It's a bop.
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COVID staple, I was like, okay, it came out in 2020.
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I didn't think you meant it literally was about COVID.
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No, it's quite literally about the pandemic.
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And yeah, it's like, oh, do you want to be with me?
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But you got to stay away if you don't have the...
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but that's fucking genius.
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I can just imagine Joe Biden's team being like, hey, you know what would be really
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fucking great for millennials to get vaccinated?
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Let's go get somebody from that stupid Sky High movie and make him sing a fucking
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song about getting vaccinated in the style of 30 Seconds to Mars slash other emo
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bands.
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That's insane.
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Don't insult Nicholas Braun with fucking Jared Leto, okay?
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Don't ever do that again.
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There's so many other better emo bands you could have used.
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I'm just saying we're gonna have to link that somewhere because everybody should go
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listen to it if you haven't.
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I don't know, he plays someone on Succession called like Cousin something.
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Hold on, let me look up his name because when it dropped, everybody was...
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Cousin Greg, that's who he plays on Succession.
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And Succession was like a huge show.
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So like when it dropped, everybody was like, Cousin Greg dropped a song, but I
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just knew him from Sky High.
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So I'm like.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah, I bet that that was planned by the government.
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I bet that's a government plug to get millennials vaccinated.
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There's no other explanation.
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I think the explanation is that like he's just like a weird funny guy.
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That's my explanation because obviously it didn't work if you never even heard it.
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Yeah, but still, it would make me get vaccinated.
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I mean, I am, but if I wasn't.
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had already planned on getting vaccinated.
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Well, I guess that came out like pretty early.
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So there wasn't a vaccine yet.
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But if I'm remembering the timeline correctly, honestly, the past four years-
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kind of fuzzy.
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Yeah.
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The fact that we're even still talking about COVID is insane.
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Well, it's still very much a thing, so...
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That's why we have to keep talking about it.
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Um, fuck, what movie are we talking about?
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Sky High?
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Oh, yeah.
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Normus, my bad.
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I'm so sorry Norman Reedus.
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I know your name I just read too fast.
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Sometimes my mouth can't catch up to my brain.
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Actually, no, I think sometimes my brain can't catch up to my mouth.
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I'm a yapper.
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Yeah, she really is.
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Okay, takes one to know one.
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When I'm editing the podcast and three quarters of the little squiggle is pink,
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that's you talking and then one quarter of it is green.
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That's me talking.
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Anyway, the one time I've edited the podcast.
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The one edit you were like, damn, she talks.
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Yikes.
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Anyway, OK, we're talking about Pandorum.
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Another casting tidbit, the child hunter, the monsters in this are called hunters,
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which is dumb.
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But anyway, is played by Christian Alvart's daughter, the director's
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daughter.
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Nepotism.
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I like that.
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But since I'm talking about him, the crew had nothing but amazing things to say
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about Christian Alvart too.
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I'll tell you some of the tidbits.
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Dennis Quaid was like, this guy's 34 years old, but he performs like a director with
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40 years of experience.
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He said that he never wasted a shot.
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Every shot relates to the story and to the psychology of the characters.
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Ben Foster said that Christian had this like 800
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cell, I guess, storyboard.
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He drew every single shot of the movie and knew them all.
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And he just would bring around this giant book of all of these pictures that he had
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drawn to like be able to like show people his vision.
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Damn.
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Yeah, he's like really committed to the bit.
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The bit being a multi -million dollar movie.
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I mean, the critics thought it was a bit.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It was supposed to be a trilogy and then...
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That did not happen, obviously, because it was a box office bomb, as they call it.
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Yeah, it has gained like a cult following though over the years.
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And I guess there's a Facebook group called "Fans for a Pandorum Sequel".
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And Christian Alvart and Travis Milloy have both joined to show their support.
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So they're in!
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Yeah.
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But my guess is it will probably never get made.
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Yeah, which like it would have to be a completely different movie unless it's
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like a prequel.
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Because they're they're on the new planet now
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Yeah, but there could be like issues that arise at the new planet.
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Well yeah, of course.
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I mean, yeah, but it would just, it wouldn't be a space movie.
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Yeah, unless it was like a prequel showing.
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Yeah.
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How...
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Gallo,
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did what he did.
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Well, funny you should mention that because I watched the 25 minute Pandorum
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and the World of Elysium documentary on YouTube.
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Yeah, it's a behind the scenes documentary and most of it is that it's like behind
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the scenes stuff.
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It's very cool.
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Shows you like the moulage and the makeup and the sets are fucking incredible.
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I'll talk more about that in a second.
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But there's also a couple of deleted scenes at the end.
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I'm assuming they're deleted scenes or else they were created in support of the
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plot.
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I don't know.
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Mm.
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there's like a training video about Tanis, the planet.
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And then there's like a five minute long video diary entry from Peyton's original
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crew.
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Oh shit!
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Yeah, it's very enlightening.
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Ahh.
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Mm -hmm.
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Yeah, I recommend it.
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It's on YouTube.
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Nice.
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Yeah, I will have to watch that.
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I'll be honest, I kind of forgot we were filming today.
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So I watched it about an hour before I messaged you and said, "Hey, are we still
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recording?"
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Oh my god.
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In my defense, I had plans on yesterday, which is Friday.
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Behind the scenes, we're filming this on a Saturday.
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But, and I never have plans.
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So I had to really like mentally prepare to leave my house and go hang out with
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people.
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Sorry that happened to you.
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No, it was great.
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I had a great time.
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It just takes a lot of energy for me.
00:21:08
I was going to say, it just really sounds like you're complaining about it.
00:21:13
No.
00:21:13
I will say though I went to see Tarot.
00:21:17
Yikes, sorry.
00:21:18
Just save your money, guys.
00:21:19
It's fine.
00:21:20
You can wait till it's on streaming.
00:21:23
I promise.
00:21:24
when I was looking for news today, that was the first thing that popped up was
00:21:29
like Tarot's ass.
00:21:32
I mean it did help that there was someone in the theater cackling.
00:21:38
They thought it was very very funny.
00:21:41
So that did help the experience because then me and my friend were also laughing
00:21:44
very hard.
00:21:45
Amazing.
00:21:47
But anyways, yeah, so I did not even think to look that up, but I will definitely
00:21:53
watch it, because I love like behind the scenes shit.
00:21:56
I think it's so much fun.
00:21:58
Yeah, and what I'm telling you, like the set, I'll talk about the sets now since
00:22:01
we're still talking about it.
00:22:03
There's 45 different, or between 45 and 50 different locations in the script or in
00:22:09
the final product.
00:22:11
They're all built.
00:22:13
There's some, there's like a little bit of green screen action going on, like
00:22:16
especially for like when you're looking at the windows and stuff.
00:22:19
That's green screen.
00:22:20
Everything else is built.
00:22:22
There's 12 sets.
00:22:24
And they built all 45 unique locations within those 12 sets.
00:22:29
So like each set could kind of transform into a different location and usually
00:22:33
multiple different locations.
00:22:35
Okay.
00:22:37
And it sounded like they filmed chronologically just based on the way the
00:22:45
set designer was describing it, that they would strike it between sets.
00:22:50
They wouldn't go from one set to the other and stay there.
00:22:53
They would go from one set to the other and then back.
00:22:55
And then the documentary does a really good job showing all of it.
00:23:00
It's very, very cool.
00:23:01
Interesting.
00:23:03
Yeah, I do like stuff like that, so I'll have to watch it.
00:23:07
I like that- it was on Netflix, like The Movies That Made Us or something like
00:23:11
that.
00:23:12
That was such a good show.
00:23:14
I loved that shit.
00:23:16
I eat it up.
00:23:17
Tell me how movies are made.
00:23:19
Yeah, yeah, definitely go watch this one.
00:23:21
Like even if you haven't watched Pandorum, like it's still really cool.
00:23:27
Yeah.
00:23:28
Just to see all the work that goes into a sci -fi movie with traditional sets.
00:23:33
Yeah, I feel like that, God, yeah.
00:23:36
I love that shit.
00:23:37
Mm -hmm.
00:23:39
Yeah.
00:23:39
I wanna walk around the set.
00:23:42
The - right?
00:23:43
Oh my God, this one would be so cool.
00:23:45
Yeah.
00:23:45
They also gave a lot of insight into like the criteria for the monsters.
00:23:49
They said that the like creating the monsters was the longest.
00:23:52
It just took a really long time as far as development of the movie went.
00:23:56
The criteria that they gave were what one of the producers called strong in
00:24:01
silhouette because they believed that shadows would help build dread and
00:24:06
suspense.
00:24:06
So like their silhouette had to be spooky.
00:24:10
The costumes had to look like they could.
00:24:13
believably being made from materials available on a spaceship.
00:24:17
Right.
00:24:19
They had to be physically strong but emaciated because there's like not a lot
00:24:24
of healthy protein available.
00:24:27
People had to look at them and be like, okay, yeah, that's a human descendant,
00:24:31
which is already a lot of criteria.
00:24:34
And they had to be new and different from anything else anybody has ever seen.
00:24:38
And they ended up with 18 different looks.
00:24:41
Interesting.
00:24:42
Mm -hmm.
00:24:43
Hold on.
00:24:44
Okay, I thought so.
00:24:46
I was gonna say- I was looking to see, because I know this came out in 2009, but
00:24:52
I was looking to see when The Descent came out, because I feel like those were kind
00:24:56
of similar, and that came out before.
00:24:59
Because I think that's kind of like...
00:25:01
Not my biggest complaint about the movie, but I think a downfall of this movie is
00:25:05
that a lot of the things that we see have already been done before and done a little
00:25:10
better.
00:25:12
Like Alien or The Descent, like we've kind of seen stuff like that before.
00:25:19
So yeah, that just reminded me of that.
00:25:23
Because I didn't think the monsters were like wholly original.
00:25:28
Yeah, but I also think it's unfair to blame the, like, pallor of the monster's
00:25:33
skin or, like, associate the pallor of the monster's skin with another completely
00:25:39
different species of monster.
00:25:41
You know what I mean?
00:25:42
Like, because these guys were wearing costumes and...
00:25:45
yeah, I think like, mannerism -wise they were different, but I'm not just talking
00:25:49
about like the fact that they have pale skin, like, I think like they had similar
00:25:53
facial features and stuff like that, but I guess like they're both like humanoid type
00:25:57
things, so it's kind of hard to like, you still have to keep that resemblance there,
00:26:02
which is gonna make it look similar.
00:26:05
But.
00:26:06
Yeah.
00:26:07
I was really surprised to see them at the beginning of the movie.
00:26:10
I was like, oh my God, you cannot tell me that I'm supposed to think that that's an
00:26:14
alien.
00:26:14
That looks like a person.
00:26:17
And so it worked on me.
00:26:18
It totally worked.
00:26:20
Like I, it ended up being a person, sort of.
00:26:25
Yeah, thank God.
00:26:26
Oh my God.
00:26:27
Ugh.
00:26:28
Yeah, I will say I do really like the concept of this movie.
00:26:32
I think it's kind of cool to be like, oh shit, you wake up from hyper sleep and
00:26:35
it's way farther than what you thought it was.
00:26:39
And kind of figuring that out as you go is like crazy.
00:26:43
Mm -hmm.
00:26:44
We could do an entire episode on the similarities between this movie and
00:26:49
Avatar, but we don't have to.
00:26:52
Yeah, see that would require me to watch Avatar.
00:26:54
No it wouldn't, I could tell you all about it.
00:26:58
*whispers* I don't want that to happen.
00:26:59
Hahaha!
00:27:03
I can't tell you how okay I am with not doing that.
00:27:09
Haha!
00:27:16
This is the first movie where Ben Foster and Jon Foster worked together.
00:27:21
They're brothers.
00:27:24
Yeah.
00:27:25
It's a very brief scene, but Jon Foster plays the passenger who like wakes up to
00:27:33
immediately get eaten.
00:27:34
What a way to go.
00:27:35
That would be...
00:27:37
You know, it's funny that you say that, because they do kind of look similar.
00:27:43
Well, yeah they're brothers, so.
00:27:45
yeah, but like I recognized that they looked similar as I was watching the
00:27:48
movie.
00:27:48
I was like, isn't that like, I was honestly almost confused.
00:27:52
Like, why are we having a flashback?
00:27:54
Like what's- until I realized there are two different people, but that's so that's
00:27:57
funny.
00:27:58
The way you said it was- made it sound like I was just saying it.
00:28:02
That it wasn't an objective fact that they are brothers.
00:28:06
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:15
The characters that his character runs into are like never named in the film.
00:28:23
We just know from the credits that their names are Nadia, Manh, and Leland.
00:28:29
Yeah.
00:28:29
crazy.
00:28:30
I know.
00:28:31
That's always interesting to me.
00:28:34
Because when you're watching it, you don't even think like...
00:28:37
They don't even need names.
00:28:40
You just, you don't even notice.
00:28:42
yeah, I mean, like one of them couldn't even speak English.
00:28:44
Like you wouldn't have known his name anyway, probably.
00:28:47
Yeah, it'd be very hard to communicate if you don't have the same language.
00:28:51
Yeah.
00:28:52
The director said that the characters collectively were developed on sort of a
00:28:57
spectrum where Bower is the most human -like and civilized character, down to the
00:29:03
hunters obviously, who's- they're supposed to personify the least human -like and the
00:29:09
most primal desires of humans.
00:29:12
Which I thought was fun and then everybody else kind of fits in the...
00:29:14
-
00:29:14
Yeah, which I mean, I guess makes sense in the universe that they've created of like,
00:29:21
they had- what they were injected with some shit that was supposed to make them
00:29:25
evolve quickly to Tanis.
00:29:28
So like, it makes sense that the longer you're awake, the more you're adapting
00:29:32
towards this environment.
00:29:33
Yeah.
00:29:33
Spooky.
00:29:34
Ooh.
00:29:41
Ben Foster insisted on eating live insects instead of using special effects or dead
00:29:48
ones.
00:29:50
So...
00:29:55
PETA's always angry.
00:29:56
Yeah.
00:29:59
Yeah.
00:30:00
Um, yeah, what a, what a, it couldn't be me.
00:30:05
I've eaten a live bug.
00:30:08
You hear that, PETA?
00:30:11
I'm just kidding.
00:30:13
No, we were at dinner one day and this gnat landed on my plate and so I squished
00:30:17
it on my plate, which I don't do that anymore.
00:30:19
I won't even kill a gnat.
00:30:20
But my dad was like, I'll give you a dollar if you eat that.
00:30:24
I just put it in my mouth.
00:30:25
Didn't even feel it in my mouth.
00:30:26
It was so like unproblematic of something to put in my mouth compared to some other
00:30:32
thing.
00:30:32
gonna eat a bug, a gnat would probably be my first choice.
00:30:36
Because it's small.
00:30:37
Very small.
00:30:38
god.
00:30:39
There's a - there's - there's a girl at work that makes salt and vinegar crickets.
00:30:45
They're so fucking good.
00:30:49
I don't like salt and vinegar.
00:30:51
So that would be my, oh, okay.
00:30:55
opinion.
00:30:58
I guarantee I have worse ones.
00:31:02
I don't not like people who like it.
00:31:06
I just don't like it.
00:31:10
Anyways, it just tastes like shit to me.
00:31:14
But I would try like a like a different flavored cricket for sure.
00:31:21
Yeah.
00:31:23
or like a cheddar.
00:31:25
Ooh!
00:31:27
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:29
I was thinking more of like a spicy one or something.
00:31:32
That'd be kind of fun.
00:31:34
Yeah.
00:31:35
like a like a Cholula or a
00:31:42
I Cholula would be really good.
00:31:43
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd try any of that.
00:31:47
Sriracha crickets, sign me up.
00:31:52
I'm a huge fan of sustainable protein and bugs are a very sustainable protein.
00:31:58
That's true.
00:32:00
But I don't know that I could eat anything with a harder exoskeleton than a cricket.
00:32:03
That's about, or with anything softer than a cricket.
00:32:07
You know, like I'm not eating a worm.
00:32:09
I'm not eating a roach.
00:32:11
Cricket's where I draw the line.
00:32:13
you watched Lion King, were you- and the grubs?
00:32:18
Were you a squishy one or a crunchy one?
00:32:22
I mean, I'm not a crunchy one.
00:32:24
I'm in the middle.
00:32:25
I'm a cricket girl only.
00:32:27
I'll eat crickets.
00:32:28
Cricket protein is very good.
00:32:31
But they're, I mean a little bit, but they're not like, you're not like
00:32:36
crunching into them.
00:32:36
They're just like, you know, you know?
00:32:39
clear, I was a crunchy girl all the way.
00:32:42
The crunchy bugs looked delicious to me in that movie.
00:32:46
My sister thought the like slurpy ones looked good.
00:32:50
I don't want to eat, I agree, I would not eat a worm.
00:32:53
But like one with a little crunch?
00:32:55
Sure.
00:32:56
A little crunch.
00:32:57
I'm not fixing to chew on it.
00:33:01
You know?
00:33:02
I just want...
00:33:03
rather eat crunchy than not.
00:33:05
You've never eaten a cricket.
00:33:07
You've never eaten a cricket and it shows.
00:33:10
Okay.
00:33:11
because it has a really wonderful texture.
00:33:13
It's not too crunchy.
00:33:14
It's not slimy.
00:33:16
It's not soft.
00:33:17
It's like a good, I'm trying to compare it to something.
00:33:20
It's kind of like popcorn, but maybe a little harder.
00:33:22
Popcorn is pretty crunchy.
00:33:24
But no, it's just, but it's soft.
00:33:26
It's soft.
00:33:27
You know?
00:33:29
like, it's not even that crunchy, it's like a chip.
00:33:32
I just keep pulling out crunch.
00:33:38
my God, popcorn's not, it's not like crunchy.
00:33:42
It's like a soft crunch, you know?
00:33:46
The first thing that pops into my mind when I say crunchy is not popcorn.
00:33:51
Because if you let popcorn, if you, you know, when you do the thing with the
00:33:56
popcorn, this is, you pick up popcorn with your tongue?
00:34:01
You just stick your tongue into the bowl of popcorn?
00:34:04
Not like as a- - not always, but like haven't you ever done that?
00:34:08
Yeah, like when I was...
00:34:10
eight.
00:34:11
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, it's like that kind of, you can't do that with a chip.
00:34:17
Yeah, I could.
00:34:19
Yeah, I could pick up a Cheeto.
00:34:21
one.
00:34:22
Okay, but that's, no, you can't.
00:34:24
Cheetos are too heavy and too, no, it's.
00:34:28
ass tongue.
00:34:29
You gotta do some tongue workouts.
00:34:31
not saying you put your, I'm not saying you like dog the, like wrap your tongue
00:34:38
around it.
00:34:38
You just stick your tongue on it like uh, uh huh, and then the popcorn.
00:34:44
I'm so glad this video is not gonna be out there, but.
00:34:49
TikTok.
00:34:51
You know what I'm saying though?
00:34:53
Like you just you stick your you touch your tongue the popcorn and it picks it up
00:34:56
You could do that with a cricket.
00:34:57
You can't do that with a chip and that honestly
00:34:59
to getting it I think you should demonstrate like four more times and I'll
00:35:03
be there.
00:35:04
Oh my god.
00:35:07
Anyway, all I'm saying is that crickets are good for the environment.
00:35:12
They're a good source of protein and it's not creating a bunch of environmental
00:35:17
issues by eating them.
00:35:19
So good for you, Ben.
00:35:21
Eating bugs.
00:35:22
I mean, they didn't have to be alive.
00:35:23
You could have like freeze dried them first.
00:35:25
Yeah, I think that was more so the issue.
00:35:29
Like, love the rant you just went on.
00:35:33
But I will say, I don't think the issue was ever whether or not he was going to
00:35:39
eat a cricket versus, you know, a cat.
00:35:42
It was more so, is he eating a live cricket or are they digitally putting that
00:35:48
in?
00:35:48
And then you made it about sustainable proteins.
00:35:51
So to be clear, it was never about that.
00:35:55
protein!
00:35:56
can tell, but it was, to be clear, not about that at all.
00:36:01
It was about him choosing to eat a live cricket rather than not doing that and
00:36:07
just, you know, acting.
00:36:11
Yeah.
00:36:12
Yeah, any other fun facts or soap boxes you'd like to talk about?
00:36:18
mean, we could keep going about sustainable protein.
00:36:21
No, no, I think you got your message across very well.
00:36:25
Of course.
00:36:27
Yeah, one more thing that I didn't notice in the film, but I thought was actually
00:36:30
really cool reading about it after the fact.
00:36:32
And I wish I had paid attention that closely to be able to figure it out on my
00:36:35
own.
00:36:36
There's a few clues that Peyton is not what he seems when they first meet, when
00:36:44
Bower and Peyton first meet.
00:36:45
One of those is that Bower comes out of cryo sleep and he's got like all of these
00:36:51
layers of dead skin,
00:36:52
and he's like all wrinkly and he has to like get rid of all these layers that are
00:36:55
stuck to him or whatever.
00:36:56
But when Peyton comes out, he doesn't really have a whole lot of that because he
00:36:59
hasn't been in cryo for as long.
00:37:01
I didn't put that together until after.
00:37:04
Yeah, that's fair.
00:37:06
I don't think I noticed that my first watch through either.
00:37:09
I think another one is like when he washes his arms after cryo sleep.
00:37:15
His number is different.
00:37:17
Like his.
00:37:19
Yeah, his flight is not the same as Bowers.
00:37:22
And I think that one I did notice.
00:37:24
Um, but also the skin one, I think is interesting.
00:37:28
I mean, I get that they were like, that was like a subtle thing, but I feel like
00:37:31
he'd still have a lot of shit.
00:37:33
He was still in cryo sleep for a goddamn long time.
00:37:37
Cause like, he was what in his twenties when they found out and that was year
00:37:44
eight.
00:37:44
Yeah.
00:37:44
So like, he was awake for another 25, 30 years to get to the age that he is as
00:37:53
Dennis Quaid.
00:37:54
I would say like 25.
00:37:57
Dennis Quaid's like 50 in this movie, I don't know.
00:38:00
And then...
00:38:00
So yeah, that's only 30 years out of the 900 that they were in cryo sleep.
00:38:08
So I feel like you'd still have a shit ton of layers.
00:38:13
Yeah, that's fair.
00:38:14
But that's just me.
00:38:15
That's me fact checking this movie.
00:38:18
Yeah, it's just, you know what?
00:38:22
It's just not...
00:38:24
It's not a reasonable film.
00:38:26
It could never happen for that reason only.
00:38:28
that's the reason he'd have more skin.
00:38:31
Yeah.
00:38:33
Which that was really uncomfortable by the way, that scene.
00:38:36
I did not like that.
00:38:37
taking the skin off?
00:38:40
Yeah, I didn't like that at all.
00:38:41
Oh, okay.
00:38:42
Reminded me of-
00:38:42
It just kind of reminded me of like when you have a sunburn and you like peel it
00:38:46
off even though you're not supposed to.
00:38:48
it was wet though.
00:38:49
I think it was the wetness is what bothered me.
00:38:51
Cause dry peeling.
00:38:53
Yeah, you're right.
00:38:53
Dry peeling is like really fun.
00:38:55
It's like satisfying a little bit.
00:38:57
Okay, so this is the wetness.
00:39:00
That's fair.
00:39:01
Uh, I just have like one fun fact left.
00:39:05
There's an Australian rap band named Pandorum.
00:39:10
And they chose the name after seeing this film because they liked the...
00:39:14
like...
00:39:15
fictional term that they created for the movie about the emotional stress caused by
00:39:22
deep space.
00:39:24
So cute.
00:39:24
Yeah, I think it's fun.
00:39:26
Which how dumb, not dumb, how...
00:39:30
I don't know what I'm trying to say, but they weren't even in space.
00:39:34
So like Pandorum's not even real, but it's also like not even real in the movie
00:39:40
because they weren't even in space.
00:39:42
Well, I think the biggest case of Pandorum is Gallo, who was in space.
00:39:48
So he was in space for a very, well, yeah, for a while.
00:39:57
And then, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's kind of the...
00:40:01
the idea of it, right?
00:40:03
It's probably like the isolation and the knowing that Earth is gone type of thing.
00:40:08
Like that's kind of what starts triggering it.
00:40:12
Being in a void is probably better, right?
00:40:14
Like they were just, the void was calling to them.
00:40:20
Yeah.
00:40:26
Anyway, yeah, let's, no, let's rate it.
00:40:30
Okay.
00:40:31
Do you want me to?
00:40:32
Okay, okay.
00:40:33
How scary did you think it was?
00:40:36
always start.
00:40:37
I like it.
00:40:39
I gave it a 1 .5 because I feel like there are parts at the beginning where there's
00:40:48
like suspense and you're seeing the shadows of the creatures and you know
00:40:51
something's there but you don't know what and that's kind of creepy.
00:40:56
But then for me, I feel like as it progresses, it kind of turns more into
00:41:00
like a sci -fi action more than like full on horror.
00:41:04
Yeah, okay.
00:41:06
I gave it a one.
00:41:09
Nothing about this scared me, not even a little bit.
00:41:11
I fucking love space.
00:41:13
And that wasn't even an alien.
00:41:15
If it was an alien, maybe it would have been scarier.
00:41:16
Yeah, you're not scared of people.
00:41:19
That's crime.
00:41:20
Crime's not scary.
00:41:22
People are so much scarier than aliens to me.
00:41:26
It's like that TikTok trend right now.
00:41:29
Would you rather be a man or bear, alien or human?
00:41:31
Is the human a man or a woman?
00:41:33
Okay, alien or man, okay, alien or man?
00:41:36
I feel like their goals are kind of similar.
00:41:40
Well, we don't know the aliens' goals.
00:41:42
It would just be what we have to go off of.
00:41:45
Well, you don't know that.
00:41:46
That's something we've created in media.
00:41:50
If you went to another planet, would your first instinct be to shove something up
00:41:53
their b**t?
00:41:55
Don't answer that.
00:41:59
was thinking.
00:42:01
Um, speaking of that conversation, how sexy did you think it was?
00:42:07
unfortunately, there was no probing in this movie.
00:42:11
I give it a 1 .5 for the cast.
00:42:14
That's all.
00:42:15
I gave it a 1 .5 for the cast.
00:42:19
It's got a pretty good looking cast.
00:42:20
I mean, even Dennis Quaid.
00:42:21
not bad.
00:42:23
Zaddy.
00:42:25
Yeah.
00:42:25
Remember him in that like baseball movie?
00:42:29
No.
00:42:30
If there's one thing about me it's that I probably haven't seen any baseball movies.
00:42:35
podcast coming soon.
00:42:36
I make Cassidy watch all of the baseball movies.
00:42:40
There's gotta be a baseball horror movie.
00:42:43
Oh, we did.
00:42:43
We did.
00:42:44
We've seen a baseball horror movie.
00:42:45
Night Swim.
00:42:47
Oh my god, I straight up blocked that out of my mind, first of all.
00:42:51
Second of all, I thought you were going to say Twilight.
00:42:57
That's the closest to a baseball movie I think I've seen.
00:43:05
And honestly, you've seen one, you've seen them all.
00:43:08
That's true, they just, they hit the ball and then they win.
00:43:14
No, Benchwarmers, I saw that.
00:43:17
I don't remember that movie.
00:43:18
bad movie starring like David Spade and Napoleon Dynamite.
00:43:26
Oh God, the guy who's in all of the like Adam Sandler movies, Rob Schneider, Rob
00:43:33
Schneider.
00:43:34
No.
00:43:37
Yeah, I feel like I remember that movie coming out, but I don't remember anything
00:43:39
about it.
00:43:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:41
I remember it being bad even then.
00:43:44
So I can't imagine that it would hold up.
00:43:50
Also, sorry, we've gotten so many tangents this fucking episode, but I also saw a
00:43:56
TikTok where this little girl was talking and she's like, mom, he's so hot.
00:44:00
And she's like, which one?
00:44:02
And she's like, that one.
00:44:03
And it turns to the TV and it's David Spade.
00:44:08
And then he commented on it and he's like, wait, wait, let her talk.
00:44:14
Oh, it's fucking funny.
00:44:16
shit ever.
00:44:16
I was like, that makes me like you David Spade.
00:44:19
Yeah.
00:44:20
I've liked David Spade ever since his assistant tried to kill him.
00:44:22
Okay, we're gonna talk about that later.
00:44:24
What?
00:44:25
No!
00:44:26
his assistant like tried to murder him.
00:44:29
Here in Arizona, in Scottsdale.
00:44:32
Yeah.
00:44:33
Money maybe?
00:44:34
I don't know.
00:44:35
Oh God.
00:44:37
Dunno.
00:44:37
there.
00:44:37
Well, I'm glad he's okay.
00:44:39
Me too.
00:44:41
Yeah, the way he talks about it, it's like the only time I have ever seen him be like
00:44:46
somber.
00:44:47
Yeah.
00:44:48
But then he makes it funny.
00:44:51
I know.
00:44:52
yeah that's terrifying.
00:44:53
Yeah, it was very terrifying.
00:44:55
I mean, not for me, for him.
00:44:57
Yeah.
00:44:58
Anyway.
00:44:59
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:45:02
I gave it a one.
00:45:05
It's pretty standard.
00:45:07
What about you?
00:45:09
I gave it a 1 .5.
00:45:11
because of the moist skin.
00:45:12
I wouldn't have more - the eye.
00:45:15
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:18
Yeah, that's fair.
00:45:19
Yeah, I didn't like, I didn't really like the moist skin, but that wasn't like
00:45:23
fucked up.
00:45:23
It was just like, ugh, is that necessary?
00:45:26
Yeah, it's...
00:45:28
that's fair.
00:45:29
Yeah.
00:45:31
Yeah.
00:45:32
overall, what did you think about space movie Pandorum?
00:45:37
So when I, when, okay, so I watched this yesterday and I immediately went to Dylan
00:45:43
and I was like, Dylan, have you ever seen a movie that was so fucking terrible?
00:45:49
But then at the last second, it just puts its little hooks in you and you're like,
00:45:55
oh my God, that was actually worth watching.
00:45:58
Because boy, do I have a movie for you.
00:46:01
And then I tried to explain the movie to him.
00:46:04
Mm -hmm.
00:46:06
Which took like 45 minutes.
00:46:08
He could have just watched the movie.
00:46:09
just watched it.
00:46:12
So I think when I first came out of it, I was like, oh my God, that was terrible.
00:46:17
But like, the more I thought about it, I kind of really liked it.
00:46:24
So.
00:46:25
Joining the Facebook cult group now.
00:46:28
I already did.
00:46:30
I went through the IMDb trivia of this and saw there was a Facebook group and
00:46:39
immediately joined that s**t.
00:46:43
I'm obsessed with that.
00:46:45
Yeah.
00:46:47
But anyway, all that to say, I gave it a three and a half.
00:46:51
Okay.
00:46:52
I liked it.
00:46:53
It could have been a four, but it was really bad.
00:46:56
It wasn't a good movie.
00:46:57
So I gave it a three and a half.
00:47:01
What a roller coaster ride of a review!
00:47:05
What did you give it?
00:47:12
I'll give it a two and a half.
00:47:13
Oh, okay.
00:47:16
But here's the thing, I do still find that's more of like a critic rating.
00:47:22
That's terrible.
00:47:22
You should be rating with your heart.
00:47:24
I know, but some of my heart still knows that some things were not okay.
00:47:29
I honestly, I gave it a halfway down the line because there's half of it I really,
00:47:35
really like, and then half of it I don't really.
00:47:37
Honestly, sorry to Dennis Quaid, but his whole shit was the most convoluted,
00:47:45
bloated, did not need to happen.
00:47:49
So that whole thing, no, and I...
00:47:52
I hate to say it, I hate to say it, but him and Cam's performances were not good
00:47:59
enough to carry the convoluted storyline.
00:48:03
I did not think their performances were very good at all.
00:48:08
If we just kept, like, Ben Foster's storyline, that was interesting to me.
00:48:14
Like, every time I would cut back to Dennis Quaid, I'm like, oh brother, this
00:48:18
guy stinks!
00:48:19
Like, get out of here!
00:48:21
But Cam did all of the same faces that he does in Twilight as Jacob.
00:48:28
That was very endearing to me.
00:48:30
Not Jacob, James.
00:48:35
Too bad.
00:48:37
James, James, James, James.
00:48:39
So yeah, I feel, but I do think like I do agree that critics were too hard on this,
00:48:45
like 29 % is crazy.
00:48:46
That's a really, that's a terrible score.
00:48:48
I think it deserves a little bit higher.
00:48:50
It's not that bad.
00:48:52
Like it's bad, but it's also- like if you just turn your brain off, you'll kind of
00:48:55
have a fun time watching it.
00:48:58
I had a great time.
00:48:59
Oh, no, I didn't.
00:49:01
Not until the end.
00:49:02
And I was like, what?
00:49:07
It's like two of my favorite things, space and ocean.
00:49:10
I do remember the first time I saw it because it was like when it came out, like
00:49:15
around that time.
00:49:17
So I was very young.
00:49:18
How old was I?
00:49:19
15.
00:49:20
15?
00:49:21
Yeah, it was about like 15, 16 when it came out.
00:49:24
And I remember I watched it and I was like, hot diggity damn, what a twist.
00:49:29
This is some M.
00:49:30
Night Shyamalan shit.
00:49:31
And I was like, this is great.
00:49:32
And I went on and it was like that moment where you're like, what a fun film.
00:49:36
And you go on and it's like the most universally hated movie.
00:49:40
You're just like, oh shit.
00:49:42
Aww.
00:49:45
But I do remember I really liked it when it first came out.
00:49:47
And obviously, I'm an adult now, so I can kind of look at things a little bit more
00:49:52
critically.
00:49:52
So I do see the flaws a lot more now than I did when I was younger.
00:49:58
But I still think it's kind of fun.
00:50:00
It's just like calm down, critics.
00:50:02
Just have a good time for once in your goddamn lives.
00:50:04
God.
00:50:05
Man, they won't know what hits them when we're allowed to review stuff on Rotten
00:50:08
Tomatoes.
00:50:10
But that's- that was one thing I was going to say about like the audience score and
00:50:14
the IMDb and all that.
00:50:15
I mean, that's just the Facebook.
00:50:18
That's just Facebook.
00:50:19
They're just going on there and making sure that everybody leaves their reviews.
00:50:24
Literally.
00:50:25
I've seen it.
00:50:27
But like, good on them.
00:50:31
Honestly, this is an honest confession that I have.
00:50:34
Sometimes I will log into IMDb and I'll rate movies way higher than they deserve
00:50:38
because I think their score is so low.
00:50:40
And it's an undeserved low score, you know?
00:50:45
Yeah.
00:50:46
I think that IMDb 6 .7 is generous.
00:50:50
think that the IMDb is too high and the Rotten Tomatoes is a bit too low.
00:50:59
Yeah, let's find like a...
00:51:01
Look, I think it's like...
00:51:02
It would be rotten on Rotten Tomatoes for me, but like in the middle, you know?
00:51:08
Yeah.
00:51:09
Look, see, I'm not even asking for a sequel.
00:51:11
I think a sequel would be too much of a departure from the original story that it
00:51:16
wouldn't be very interesting to me.
00:51:18
But there is an unrated version that hasn't been released.
00:51:23
That's all I'm asking for.
00:51:26
That's not so much to ask.
00:51:28
It's already made.
00:51:29
Post it in the Facebook group.
00:51:31
I did!
00:51:36
You underestimate me.
00:51:38
Oh god you made me cackle!
00:51:44
Oh shit!
00:51:46
Hahaha!
00:51:49
Ehh...
00:51:50
that's incredible.
00:51:52
Um...
00:51:52
Would you survive?
00:51:55
Um
00:51:57
I mean, I would like to think I would.
00:52:00
I'm not a fast runner.
00:52:02
I don't have many skills, survival -wise, or at all.
00:52:08
-hmm.
00:52:09
So I probably wouldn't, but I would really like to be like one of the like,
00:52:15
first people on a new planet to essentially colonize that planet and start
00:52:22
from the ground up.
00:52:24
And you know what I mean?
00:52:26
I think yes, but I don't think your want to do that, plays into if you would
00:52:30
survive.
00:52:30
That just means you would be on the ship.
00:52:37
Yeah, and it would be really fun for me to be on like an episode of Space Naked and
00:52:42
Afraid.
00:52:43
But I, yeah, I don't think I'm living.
00:52:48
I don't think I can run fast enough.
00:52:49
I don't have the skills.
00:52:51
They're quick.
00:52:53
Yeah.
00:52:55
Yeah.
00:52:55
Yeah.
00:52:56
The way this is totally unrelated.
00:52:59
Norman Reedus when he gets like, is he is he the one that gets his intestines ripped
00:53:05
out?
00:53:05
Yeah, he's the one that he finds, like, strung up.
00:53:12
Bower finds him, like, strung up, and he gets him down and helps him, and then he's
00:53:15
like, you don't know any more than I do.
00:53:16
Like, fuck you, I'm out of here.
00:53:18
And then he gets attacked.
00:53:20
but he gets his intestines
00:53:23
Yeah.
00:53:23
out.
00:53:24
Yeah.
00:53:25
Yeah, it's just a fantasy I've had rearranging Norman Reedus's intestines in
00:53:33
a different way.
00:53:35
In a different way.
00:53:37
a watch list, Jesus Christ.
00:53:41
For that, I've said so much worse!
00:53:46
Uh, would you survive?
00:53:48
Probably not.
00:53:51
Think if about what, 1 people out of 60 survived?
00:53:59
Odds aren't great.
00:54:01
Well, here's the thing, something that we're not taking into account.
00:54:05
We're not engineers.
00:54:08
So we're probably just like asleep in our pots.
00:54:12
Yeah, but that was like the feeding grounds.
00:54:14
And people were just waking up willy -nilly.
00:54:18
Like, how did Bower wake up?
00:54:19
Exactly.
00:54:20
His pod just was like, it's time, I guess it's been 900 fucking years.
00:54:25
So it feels like there wasn't really like an order to when they were waking up after
00:54:29
things went awry.
00:54:31
And especially with the like shit shutting down, could have caused malfunctions?
00:54:36
Also, isn't the like process of skin shedding also the aging process?
00:54:43
I don't know enough about it to comment, so I can't tell you that's something.
00:54:51
Yeah, that's something we'd have to research because I don't know.
00:54:56
But yeah, I'm just saying if it's 1200 out of 60 .
00:55:03
Statistically, I'm probably dying.
00:55:06
Yeah.
00:55:07
Well, what is that?
00:55:08
What is that?
00:55:09
Wait, 1200 out of 60 ?
00:55:13
0.02, so that's a 2 % chance.
00:55:17
So that's a 1 in 50, right?
00:55:22
1 in 50.
00:55:24
Okay, pick a number between 1 and 50.
00:55:28
11.
00:55:35
Okay.
00:55:37
Yeah.
00:55:37
eight.
00:55:38
Yeah, I gotta do it for you though because I...
00:55:42
Okay, max 50.
00:55:45
All right.
00:55:48
Three.
00:55:50
I literally did.
00:55:53
Four.
00:55:55
Oh.
00:55:58
Four is my least favorite number.
00:56:00
just goes up.
00:56:01
I did it again, 35.
00:56:02
You're still not doing anything.
00:56:04
You've had three chances and you're still dead.
00:56:06
We died.
00:56:08
We died a lot.
00:56:11
I hope somebody out there is impressed by my quick math of 1 in 50.
00:56:18
You
00:56:19
can't do 2 out of 100 to 1 in 50.
00:56:21
Let me know.
00:56:23
We'll do some math sessions, because...
00:56:26
Um, okay, do you want to guess the plot of next week's film?
00:56:32
Okay, so, oh.
00:56:34
shtick.
00:56:35
I'm just kidding.
00:56:37
record and say that the shtick was your idea.
00:56:41
So, okay, so next week we are going to do kind of a different thing than we've done
00:56:47
before.
00:56:48
We're going to talk about both the original film and the remake of it.
00:56:53
feel like we talked about this, I don't remember what you're talking about.
00:56:57
I tell kd what's gonna happen on our podcast and then she immediately forgets
00:57:01
what's gonna happen on our podcast.
00:57:04
Oh yeah, I mentioned a movie we watched like late last year and she was like, I
00:57:10
haven't seen it.
00:57:12
never even heard of that movie.
00:57:16
You just made that up?
00:57:18
Okay, so we're gonna talk about both the 1978 and the 2004 remake of Dawn of the
00:57:26
Dead.
00:57:26
Oh, Dawn of the Dead, that's zombies.
00:57:29
Okay.
00:57:31
Okay, it's about two men.
00:57:35
One of them carries a chainsaw.
00:57:37
One of them carries a sword.
00:57:40
And zombies come to life.
00:57:46
And the one guy, the guy with the chainsaw is Irish.
00:57:51
He...
00:57:53
They're just trying to get out of the area where all the infected people are or the
00:57:57
zombies are.
00:57:58
Yeah.
00:57:59
And they meet and they realize, oh my God, you're both alive.
00:58:03
We're living, we're not zombies.
00:58:06
And they team up and they meet a couple other people on the way out.
00:58:11
It's kind of like Zombieland, but it's, I think, set in Ireland, probably or
00:58:17
England, somewhere over there.
00:58:18
Obviously.
00:58:20
and they make it out.
00:58:25
Oh great, so the two guys just handled things.
00:58:31
Great.
00:58:31
Yep.
00:58:32
That's it.
00:58:33
I mean, there's not really a plot in zombie movies.
00:58:34
It's just like get away from the zombies, you know?
00:58:36
Yeah.
00:58:37
Cool.
00:58:39
Nah.
00:58:40
also, no?
00:58:42
Not even close?
00:58:42
Not even a little bit?
00:58:45
Okay.
00:58:45
And there are like two guys, I guess, but it's more than just two.
00:58:50
I don't think so.
00:58:51
It's set in the US.
00:58:53
Pretty sure they're all American.
00:58:55
Darn.
00:58:56
I was going off of what little knowledge I have of Shaun of the Dead.
00:58:58
Is there an Irish guy in that one?
00:58:59
don't think so.
00:59:00
Oh, are there.
00:59:02
is set in the UK, but I think they're English.
00:59:07
Well, I know the main two are.
00:59:09
I don't think there's...
00:59:11
a chainsaw?
00:59:11
In shot of the dead?
00:59:13
Cassidy's never seen Shaun of the Dead.
00:59:14
don't think so.
00:59:15
It's been a while.
00:59:16
No, I remember there's bats.
00:59:19
It's more like hand to hand combat.
00:59:23
I thought you meant like bats.
00:59:26
I was like, what is it?
00:59:27
Vampire zombies?
00:59:29
Got it.
00:59:31
Another baseball movie.
00:59:34
Um, but I don't think there's a chainsaw.
00:59:39
You thinking of The Texas Chainsaw?
00:59:42
You know, I know that.
00:59:47
Yeah, I will say that's a very, very loose parody of multiple zombie movies, not just
00:59:57
Dawn of the Dead.
00:59:59
Okay.
01:00:02
But yeah, it's set in America.
01:00:05
It's a group of people.
01:00:06
And there's zombies.
01:00:08
Like Zombieland.
01:00:09
You literally just described Zombieland.
01:00:11
Great.
01:00:12
Yeah.
01:00:14
But yeah, this is, I don't think it's like the blueprint blueprint.
01:00:19
That's probably Night of the Living Dead, which is, uh, George A.
01:00:23
Romero's first zombie movie.
01:00:25
Maybe like, I don't know if it's the first zombie movie, but it's like one of the
01:00:29
first zombie horror movies.
01:00:31
So this is like the, not a sequel, but like his second in his zombie movie
01:00:37
experience.
01:00:39
Got it.
01:00:40
So yeah, no real connection to Night of the Living Dead, but it's his second.
01:00:46
So yeah, we'll watch that and then we will watch the remake and we'll kind of talk
01:00:49
about both, compare both and yeah.
01:00:54
I know I'm excited to kind of just like, cause I feel like I always want to talk
01:00:59
about the remakes or the sequels and stuff and you don't get to, so it'll be nice to
01:01:03
just have you watch both and you can talk about both.
01:01:07
Yay.
01:01:08
Nice.
01:01:08
That's it.
01:01:10
Yeah, thanks for listening.
01:01:12
Yeah, please like and subscribe.
01:01:14
Please?
01:01:15
Bye!
01:01:16
Oh, not even a we'll see you next week or anything.
01:01:19
Just.
01:01:21
Yeah, damn.
01:01:24
Bye.